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we have wisconsin, nevada, colorado, ohio, florida, and new hampshire. romney with fewer stops planned to so far. the governor planning in virginia, wisconsin, ohio, new hampshire, and colorado as well. we want to bring in thursday's power panel. guys, it's good to have you here. alice, i want to start with you governor romney, as we mentioned, speaking moments ago. he wasn't holding back on his criticisms of the president. take a listen. >> he's got to find something to suggest it's going to be better over the next four years. so he came up with an idea next week, which is he's going to create the department of business. i don't think adding a new chair in his cabinet will help add millions of jobs. >> now that he's back officially on the campaign trail, mitt romney and any post-sandy chivalry is dead. is it risky for him to be doing this so soon in the wake of a disaster, especially in virginia, where they were under orders of sandy's presence coming their way? luckily, they were spared. >> governor romney showed tremendous compassion for those who are
we have wisconsin, nevada, colorado, ohio, florida, and new hampshire. romney with fewer stops planned to so far. the governor planning in virginia, wisconsin, ohio, new hampshire, and colorado as well. we want to bring in thursday's power panel. guys, it's good to have you here. alice, i want to start with you governor romney, as we mentioned, speaking moments ago. he wasn't holding back on his criticisms of the president. take a listen. >> he's got to find something to suggest it's...
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president needs to win just three in order to win a second term to get 271 electoral votes and those are nevada where there are six votes, wisconsin where there are ten and here in ohio, there are 18. and winning just those three of all these battle grounds gets you to 271 in a very narrow win, but that's what would do it for him and they feel very good about those three states. >> assuming they hold pennsylvania. >> that's true. that is a big point right there. >> i think there's a sense that florida might be moving in romney's direction. structurally, that's always been the most problematic of the battleground states for obama. and if i were betting, i would bet romney carries florida. >> and we're hearing from the romney side that there's a bit of a head fake there. >> it may be. what a lot of strategists have told me is if you're going to make a play for a state, you need to do it at least three weeks before election day. so one week out, not even a full week, makes it tough. it might be too little too late for mitt romney where they are spending a lot of money at this last minute. but they
president needs to win just three in order to win a second term to get 271 electoral votes and those are nevada where there are six votes, wisconsin where there are ten and here in ohio, there are 18. and winning just those three of all these battle grounds gets you to 271 in a very narrow win, but that's what would do it for him and they feel very good about those three states. >> assuming they hold pennsylvania. >> that's true. that is a big point right there. >> i think...
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we hope to get on john raulson out of nevada. this is interesting for many reasons, and i wanted to talk specific alally about nevada wh the foreclosures are high and unemployment rate is high. latinos in that state could help president obama win it in a significant way. let's see what we see in regarding the white vote and in a key state like nevada the latino vote being the difference. >> if everybody recalls the election of 2010, when reid was running against sharon inkeningle, all the polls showed engel was ahead by significant margins. what happened was at the end of the day when you looked at the scorecard, latinos went in favor to harry reid 9-10. that was because sharon engel's campaign was so egregious when it came to the latino votes. pollsters feel that la tyne notices won't turn out, and a lot of working class latinos are cell phones. this is the dreary part of polling. you often miss a big swath of potential when it comes to voting to the new voter, which is not only latinos but women and youth. what we're going to s
we hope to get on john raulson out of nevada. this is interesting for many reasons, and i wanted to talk specific alally about nevada wh the foreclosures are high and unemployment rate is high. latinos in that state could help president obama win it in a significant way. let's see what we see in regarding the white vote and in a key state like nevada the latino vote being the difference. >> if everybody recalls the election of 2010, when reid was running against sharon inkeningle, all the...
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he kicks it off in the battleground blitz in wisconsin, nevada, and colorado. when he makes his final campaign stop in des moines, iowa, at a rally with the first lady, that's the only stop that she joins him on. the president will have visited eight of the nine battleground states. the one that he's not going to is north carolina. the 2012 presidential election could hinge on this, will the firewall of iowa, ohio, and wisconsin hold up? and you only have to look at the president's travel over the last five days of the campaign to find out that's where the campai campaign believes the race will be decided. one of them has to be the state of ohio. the president has events in ohio four out of five days on the trail. he stopped in iowa, wisconsin, and colorado two times, each will be in florida and virginia, new hampshire, nevada just once before this campaign is over. today the president will begin laying out what aides say is his closing argument, making a stronger case for government. he will point to the way forward to real change. it will say this apparently
he kicks it off in the battleground blitz in wisconsin, nevada, and colorado. when he makes his final campaign stop in des moines, iowa, at a rally with the first lady, that's the only stop that she joins him on. the president will have visited eight of the nine battleground states. the one that he's not going to is north carolina. the 2012 presidential election could hinge on this, will the firewall of iowa, ohio, and wisconsin hold up? and you only have to look at the president's travel over...
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leading by more than 2 in nevada, ohio and iowa. as a slighter margins in new hampshire and colorado, governor romney only leads in more at a point in florida and is narrowly ahead in virginia. that gives a reason for them to, let's say, be concerned. >> they need to be concerned because it is not just the enthuse yack enthuse em that's missing p. this is what barack obama does better than anyone else. man test right now in the early vote of look at nevada, north carolina, iowa. mitt romney with needs to win 54 to 60% of the remaining votes in the states in order to drop into the victory. that's a huge lift. i think when you couple the fact that democratic base is much more fired up with the fact that obama for america has been organizing for the last four years. they keep talking about pennsylvania, you can't drop into pennsylvania the weekend before an election, and expect to tip the vote just by buying ads when you have the other team with a fantastic ground operation. >> drive by campaigning won't do it. when you look at pennsyl
leading by more than 2 in nevada, ohio and iowa. as a slighter margins in new hampshire and colorado, governor romney only leads in more at a point in florida and is narrowly ahead in virginia. that gives a reason for them to, let's say, be concerned. >> they need to be concerned because it is not just the enthuse yack enthuse em that's missing p. this is what barack obama does better than anyone else. man test right now in the early vote of look at nevada, north carolina, iowa. mitt...
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we're going to win nevada. we're going to win new hampshire. i think we have an even chance of winning virginia and florida. so it could be a big win. and it also could be close. >> check those numbers bhap do you make of those states? is that a good list? >> i think the ceiling is somewhere 300, 303 if you want to be exact the numbers i've done. if you throw in north carolina it could be 318 max. that's possible. they could all be 51, 49 at the end of the day. i do want to say i think a lot of us, we're sort of victims of 2004. before 2004 we were all more convinced of the challenger incumbent rule. that somehow challengers always got the undecided and then a tie goes to the challenger. then you're happened when bush won frankly as many of the undecided as he did. then you'd have to go back to '76 the last time the person with momentum lost at the end. lost the popular vote. that was ford. ford had the momentum but carter won in the end. even gore, he had the last-second momentum. he did win the popular vote. having the momentum has it in the
we're going to win nevada. we're going to win new hampshire. i think we have an even chance of winning virginia and florida. so it could be a big win. and it also could be close. >> check those numbers bhap do you make of those states? is that a good list? >> i think the ceiling is somewhere 300, 303 if you want to be exact the numbers i've done. if you throw in north carolina it could be 318 max. that's possible. they could all be 51, 49 at the end of the day. i do want to say i...
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nevada is probably almost gone. and the way that the demographics have shifted in nevada this may be the last election where nevada is really in play for republicans. there's also an interesting thing that happened there on the ground. ron paul supporters sort of took over the republican party in nevada and kind of destroyed it in a way. the groundwork there is really poor for the republican party to the extent that the idaho republican party has actually been sending mail into the state. that's how bad it is. >> so why is mitt romney going to pennsylvania? >> well, i think he's looking at the fact that he can't win in ohio, he's behind there. even his people are sort of acknowledging that that's falling off the map. he has to either win in wisconsin which is also looking very much out of reach. or he has to figure out some other path of pennsylvania. i don't think it's credible but he's trying to do at least a head fake to figure out you some other path to get there. >> jonathan, to you. you might have thought that
nevada is probably almost gone. and the way that the demographics have shifted in nevada this may be the last election where nevada is really in play for republicans. there's also an interesting thing that happened there on the ground. ron paul supporters sort of took over the republican party in nevada and kind of destroyed it in a way. the groundwork there is really poor for the republican party to the extent that the idaho republican party has actually been sending mail into the state....
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paul ryan heads to nevada, colorado, ohio and wisconsin. all right. take a look at this. yes, that is new jersey governor chris christie greeting homeland security chief as the pair toured a relief center in hoboken sunday. christie last sun said he didn't give a damn about the presidential election as he dealt with the disaster. on sunday he laughed at the notion that he wasn't still loyal to mitt romney. >> i don't understand why telling the president of the united states he's done a good job when he's done a good job equals an endorsement. fact of matter is, mitt romney knows this, by the way, so does the president of the united states. i endorsed mitt romney 13 months ago because i thought he was the best guy for the job. on tuesday i'm voting for mitt romney because i think he's the best guy for the job. it doesn't mean i can't turn to the president of the united states of america and say to him, thank you, sir, for providing good leadership in this crisis and helping the people of new jersey and extend my hand of friendship to him. this shows you how broken our poli
paul ryan heads to nevada, colorado, ohio and wisconsin. all right. take a look at this. yes, that is new jersey governor chris christie greeting homeland security chief as the pair toured a relief center in hoboken sunday. christie last sun said he didn't give a damn about the presidential election as he dealt with the disaster. on sunday he laughed at the notion that he wasn't still loyal to mitt romney. >> i don't understand why telling the president of the united states he's done a...
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republican lance gilman the newly elected county commissioner of nevada's storey county happens to be the owner of mustang ranch. that's right, the infamous brothel out there. nevada, just to clear things up, is the only state with legalized prostitution and gilman just game the first such owner to make his way to winning an election of public office. according to the county xhish ler elect himself, people want to focus on the brothel issue. i have had a wonderful 43 year record of business success that i bring to the commission. it is kind of a hard issue to ignore. gilman by the way calls himself a dyed in the wool republican who loves american values. >>> finally, last week steve schmidt said on meet the press that a lot of swing voters think of the republican party as one of loons and wackos. mike murphy, another republican strategist just weighed in on "meet the press." here he is. >> this is an existential crisis for the republican party and we have to have a brutal discussion about it. we alienate young voters because of gay marriage, we alienate hispanics and we've lost our co
republican lance gilman the newly elected county commissioner of nevada's storey county happens to be the owner of mustang ranch. that's right, the infamous brothel out there. nevada, just to clear things up, is the only state with legalized prostitution and gilman just game the first such owner to make his way to winning an election of public office. according to the county xhish ler elect himself, people want to focus on the brothel issue. i have had a wonderful 43 year record of business...
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. >> and i have nevada in there. you live on the border of nevada and california. demographically gone for the republicans right now? >> this is a state that republicans should have won if we had the same hispanic turnout of the vote percentage under president bush, under john mccain. mitt romney would be ahead in nevada. it's not the case. president obama is going to win nevada. >> anybody here think the president will lose iowa? >> i think he's going to win iowa. and i changed my opinion on that. i thought he was going to lose iowa. >> you believe iowa. where do you fall? >> the president. >> look what this does here. this puts -- we put it up to 259 so th so then he's is 11 away. anybody thinks he's going to win florida? so you give romney this, florida. colorado, i think it will be the closest state in the country. >> i agree. >> where does it go? >> romney. >> romney wins. >> really close but romney. >> it might all come down to ohio. >> it may. and virginia we have sitting he here. so this could mean to me as a realistic scenario and i won't make you force th
. >> and i have nevada in there. you live on the border of nevada and california. demographically gone for the republicans right now? >> this is a state that republicans should have won if we had the same hispanic turnout of the vote percentage under president bush, under john mccain. mitt romney would be ahead in nevada. it's not the case. president obama is going to win nevada. >> anybody here think the president will lose iowa? >> i think he's going to win iowa. and i...
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nevada elects its first african-american congressman this year. america gets our first openly gay united states senator. america gets our first-ever asian american woman senator from hawaii. her seat in the house, i should note, gets filled by this woman, a democratic iraq war veteran. time going to tell you right now that her name is tulsy gabboard, because she is on the fast track to being very famous some day. speaking of iraq war veterans, tammy duckworth, veteran helicopter pilot, lost both her legs in congress, she is going to congress and sending home the opponent who mocked her for her war record, joe walsh. california relaxed its three strikes you're out law and rejected a law to cripple the power of unions. criminal legalization of marijuana was approved in washington and montana. sherrod brown and jon tester both won, held on to their seats. democrats won a senate seat in north dakota, of all places, a seat that nobody thought they could win. all of these states that had this hugely aggressive total republican takeover from the 2010 ele
nevada elects its first african-american congressman this year. america gets our first openly gay united states senator. america gets our first-ever asian american woman senator from hawaii. her seat in the house, i should note, gets filled by this woman, a democratic iraq war veteran. time going to tell you right now that her name is tulsy gabboard, because she is on the fast track to being very famous some day. speaking of iraq war veterans, tammy duckworth, veteran helicopter pilot, lost...
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poll numbers we've been seeing, we're going to see that latinos are going to hold florida, virginia, nevada and colorado. what we are seeing is very high support for the president. so what we are seeing is about 74% of latinos saying they are either certain to or very likely to vote for the president and the worst case scenario, 64% of latinos are saying they are certain to vote for the president. is so with that, you are going to secure those states and don't forget, there is still a smattering of latinos in north carolina, wisconsin and iowa. 3%, 4%, but when it is so close, that 3% of mobilized latino turnout is going to make the difference. >> on, let's talk about pennsylvania because when we bring up close, pennsylvania right now, 47 to 47 in a state that normally, the president would have a comfortable lead in. stephanie cutter said on "morning joe" today that it's not realistic that governor romney should make a play for pennsylvania or even think about winning pennsylvania. what's your reaction to that? >> i'm glad they're giving governor romney advice because if he follows the advi
poll numbers we've been seeing, we're going to see that latinos are going to hold florida, virginia, nevada and colorado. what we are seeing is very high support for the president. so what we are seeing is about 74% of latinos saying they are either certain to or very likely to vote for the president and the worst case scenario, 64% of latinos are saying they are certain to vote for the president. is so with that, you are going to secure those states and don't forget, there is still a...
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then from his perch as a nevada state director this time around to get him re-elected. i'm biased, of course, but to me tuesday's victory was luke's victory as much as it was anyone else's. luke and the thousands like him, organizers of every hue and background and creed in states across the nation working pre'strously long hours and making democracy work, calling people, knocking on doors, sending e-mails, sitting through endless meetings and conference calls and sorting columns on spreadsheets and buying office spliets in bulk or slightly used so as to come in under budget. negotiating leases, getting yelled at by people, there were thousands of people across the country like my brother doing this work, and not just for ofa, from local candidates, city council on up. from the ballot initiatives that passed across the country giving us the first popular victories for marriage equality in three states and the beginning to end for our insane policy of marijuana prohibition. when the victory bell rings, we all rush to talk about the great men of history who made it so, th
then from his perch as a nevada state director this time around to get him re-elected. i'm biased, of course, but to me tuesday's victory was luke's victory as much as it was anyone else's. luke and the thousands like him, organizers of every hue and background and creed in states across the nation working pre'strously long hours and making democracy work, calling people, knocking on doors, sending e-mails, sitting through endless meetings and conference calls and sorting columns on...
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odd and interesting about this is the three states with the worst unemployment levels, california, nevada and new jersey are solidly democratic. the whole republican argument that this administration has made things worse clearly is not working in those states where things are, in fact, the worst. in other states like nebraska, kansas, north dakota where there's extremely low employment because of shale gas and agriculture, republicans are winning. it's an interesting dynamic in the election in that respect. the real challenge for any new administrati administration, whether it's president obama or governor romney, is we treat it as a national problem and we have huge varieties between states and education levels and gender. >> let's talk about the psyc psychology of it. are people looking at the numbers and measures how they feel? whatever the case, they're measures how they feel at their home right now. >> absolutely. it's a good media story to talk about the number that changes month to month. oh, my god the unemployment rate is 7.9%. do i have a job that pays enough? do i have several
odd and interesting about this is the three states with the worst unemployment levels, california, nevada and new jersey are solidly democratic. the whole republican argument that this administration has made things worse clearly is not working in those states where things are, in fact, the worst. in other states like nebraska, kansas, north dakota where there's extremely low employment because of shale gas and agriculture, republicans are winning. it's an interesting dynamic in the election in...
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he started in 2007 and is now a state director in nevada. i see it through his eyes. there's a degree, when it functions best, there's a feedback. if you have people going to the doors every day and doing constant focus grouping and constant interactions with voters to see what's moving them, that's democracy at its core. if you are finding when you go to the doors, women age 20 to 35 really are worried about birth control and access to it. then, what you see is that moves the way the president talks. >> it's too cold. it's too cold. it's chilling. it's like the big ad corporations. what you want to do is get a feel for the electorate long before it's election time. then provide the kind of leadership to get people pumped up about your program in advance and have the field offices and your field operation come in as profound tools to get those voters to the polls. >> there is something -- i believe -- listen, what we are talking about. >> i'm amazed. >> i know. i am retail politicking. going door-to-door, speaking to the working people of pennsylvania or ohio, trying
he started in 2007 and is now a state director in nevada. i see it through his eyes. there's a degree, when it functions best, there's a feedback. if you have people going to the doors every day and doing constant focus grouping and constant interactions with voters to see what's moving them, that's democracy at its core. if you are finding when you go to the doors, women age 20 to 35 really are worried about birth control and access to it. then, what you see is that moves the way the president...
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not so much in nevada where there are more mexicans. you're right. this idea of focusing on foreign policy rather than on economic policy, not a good play. you saw mitt romney try to do that early on. he was in texas, for instance, early on in this race, and talking about those issues. but, again, in texas, that's a state he is going to win. have i been quite surprised that you haven't seen mitt romney out on the stump with people like susana martinez. he hasn't been out with brian sandoval. >> you've named those names. and to that point the ad i referred to might appeal to cuban americans in florida. but we know he has to extend his reach to the latino community beyond florida. with that said, i don't know what he would present on the table with immigration, but he has allies that are available to him, successful latinos within his own party that he has not reached out to broaden a message of, i don't know, economic recovery or whatever, the american dream story that susana martinez forever offered up at the rnc. >> yeah, very powerful message. >> a
not so much in nevada where there are more mexicans. you're right. this idea of focusing on foreign policy rather than on economic policy, not a good play. you saw mitt romney try to do that early on. he was in texas, for instance, early on in this race, and talking about those issues. but, again, in texas, that's a state he is going to win. have i been quite surprised that you haven't seen mitt romney out on the stump with people like susana martinez. he hasn't been out with brian sandoval....
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i've been in here 23, 24 days, we're going to win iowa, wisconsin, nevada, new hampshire. i think we've got an even chance of winning virginia and florida. so it could be a big win. don't just vote. bring your mom, your dad, cousin, knock on the door of your neighbor. let me tell you something, the middle class depends on it. >> joining me from the battleground state of ohio is our own national treasure, chris matthews. it's always great to see you. congratulations on the interviews. how much of that confidence is genuine and how much is spin in the homestretch? >> he felt confident when i talked to him off camera. of course, north carolina, new hampshire and colorado are up in the air. he said virginia and florida would be tough, as well. did you notice the discordance on the right wing of getting along with the other side? on the one hand, the romney is saying we should get along with the other side saying he could work with a republican congress. of course he can, he's a republican. then you have rupert murdoch trashing the governor of new jersey for the same thing, wor
i've been in here 23, 24 days, we're going to win iowa, wisconsin, nevada, new hampshire. i think we've got an even chance of winning virginia and florida. so it could be a big win. don't just vote. bring your mom, your dad, cousin, knock on the door of your neighbor. let me tell you something, the middle class depends on it. >> joining me from the battleground state of ohio is our own national treasure, chris matthews. it's always great to see you. congratulations on the interviews. how...
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you have hispanic governors in nevada. they won election of 2010. susanna martinez who got rave reviews for the convention speech at the the republican national convention. you see the republican wing in congress being very, very white. a lot of males dominating the caucus. on the governor's side you have a lot of hispanic and indiana-american governor es showing the way. >> you make the point that four of the five women serving as governors in 2013 are republicans. you look at large majorities of african-americans. latino and asian americans voting democratic, the question may be how important for the gop's future are women and minority governors to the party, and they clearly have more at this point than actually the democrats do at that level? >> yeah, it's really remarkable when you look at the the governors and how they have a much more diversity and ethnicity and in gender. and it's a real model when you look at the the exit polling data showing how badly romney underperformed with female voters and how he just did terribly with hispanics and
you have hispanic governors in nevada. they won election of 2010. susanna martinez who got rave reviews for the convention speech at the the republican national convention. you see the republican wing in congress being very, very white. a lot of males dominating the caucus. on the governor's side you have a lot of hispanic and indiana-american governor es showing the way. >> you make the point that four of the five women serving as governors in 2013 are republicans. you look at large...
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. >> nevada. >> nevada. close but to dean heller. >> all right. next one? >> ohio. it's closed up but brown wins. >> does he outperform the president by what, two points? >> i don't know. >> yeah, yeah. >> if you were to guess, it's going to be a tight race? >> florida, nelson beats mak. then we get to virginia. >> where are you there? >> i guess i would give kane maybe a tiny finger on the scale. >> give it to blue? >> i don't know. >> we'll put it there for now. that gets us through the presidential toss-ups. let's go to the red states if you will. these are a ton of great states. >> flake wins. >> montana, that's scary. everybody, both sides say it's really too close. >> the libtarian candidate is going to make the winning number. >> it could. >> i guess he gets a couple. this guy john tester up a point or two and the question is does that save him? let's do edge tester. >> all right. next one? north dakota right next door. >> berg wins. it's very very close. >> the same way you feel about montana. >> yeah. >> not quite as close. >> yeah. >> let's stick in the re
. >> nevada. >> nevada. close but to dean heller. >> all right. next one? >> ohio. it's closed up but brown wins. >> does he outperform the president by what, two points? >> i don't know. >> yeah, yeah. >> if you were to guess, it's going to be a tight race? >> florida, nelson beats mak. then we get to virginia. >> where are you there? >> i guess i would give kane maybe a tiny finger on the scale. >> give it to blue?...
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heidi high votes in nevada. what we're going to see in virginia for example there'll be some romney tim kaine democrat votes. there will be romney claire mccass tell votes in missouri. one thing you'll see there will be structural ticket splitting that will be pretty measurable in a lot of these senate races. that's something we haven't even well that will ager i think well for democrats. >> always a pleasure to speak with both of you. thank you. stay with msnbc for all day coverage of the home stretch to election day. craig melvin continues our live coverage this afternoon at 2:00 eastern followed by a saturday edition of the cycle, news nation with cameron hall and now with alex wagner. nothing to turn your channel for there. >>> well, federal and state officials are taking extreme measures to bring more fuel to the region. trucks are going to distribute free fuel. free that is across the region. and millions of gallons of fuel are now flowing into new york ports. even more is coming. we're going to have a lot
heidi high votes in nevada. what we're going to see in virginia for example there'll be some romney tim kaine democrat votes. there will be romney claire mccass tell votes in missouri. one thing you'll see there will be structural ticket splitting that will be pretty measurable in a lot of these senate races. that's something we haven't even well that will ager i think well for democrats. >> always a pleasure to speak with both of you. thank you. stay with msnbc for all day coverage of...
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that being a republican congressman in nevada. karl rove totally struck out. the night foundation says his two republican super pacs forked out about $175 million and not one of their backed candidates won. ouch! ♪ [ male announcer ] the way it moves. the way it cleans. everything about the oral-b power brush is simply revolutionary. oral-b power brushes oscillate, rotate and even pulsate to gently loosen and break up that sticky plaque with more brush movements than manual brushes and even up to 50% more than leading sonic technology brushes for a superior clean. oral-b power brushes. go to oralb.com for the latest offers. oral-b power brushes. if we want to improve our schools... ... what should we invest in? maybe new buildings? what about updated equipment? they can help, but recent research shows... ... nothing transforms schools like investing in advanced teacher education. let's build a strong foundation. let's invest in our teachers so they can inspire our students. let's solve this. >>> sky high confidence, black thursday, and counting the beans our
that being a republican congressman in nevada. karl rove totally struck out. the night foundation says his two republican super pacs forked out about $175 million and not one of their backed candidates won. ouch! ♪ [ male announcer ] the way it moves. the way it cleans. everything about the oral-b power brush is simply revolutionary. oral-b power brushes oscillate, rotate and even pulsate to gently loosen and break up that sticky plaque with more brush movements than manual brushes and even...
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in only one of those races, in nevada, did the republican candidate prevail. rove's awful election night proved that you can't buy momentum or create it simply by decreeing it and that there's a boundary to what bluster accomplishes. the road he zoomed down in 2012 was toward a potentially diminished place in his party. john heilemann, go ahead. do you agree? >> well, there's -- >> what? say it! >> there's just a lot to say -- >> why do you have a problem with this? >> no, there's a lot to say about karl. i think in the senate races, look. karl did not choose the candidates in the senate races across the country. the outside groups that went into these congressional races, you're kind of stuck with who you've got. you didn't pick todd akin, richard mourdock, he didn't run the campaign of george allen in virginia. he's an independent expenditure. on some level those campaigns, you know, he could go in and try to provide air support, but you're not the strategist for those campaigns. you don't pick the candidate. the presidential race, there's no question this p
in only one of those races, in nevada, did the republican candidate prevail. rove's awful election night proved that you can't buy momentum or create it simply by decreeing it and that there's a boundary to what bluster accomplishes. the road he zoomed down in 2012 was toward a potentially diminished place in his party. john heilemann, go ahead. do you agree? >> well, there's -- >> what? say it! >> there's just a lot to say -- >> why do you have a problem with this?...